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Career
USA
After high school you'll have to undertake:
- 4 years of college, to get a bachelors degree
- 4 years of medical school, to get the doctor of medicine (MD) degree
- 4 or 5 years of residency (4 for anatomic pathology only, or 5 for combined anatomic/clinical pathology, the latter track being recommended) to become eligible to take the Board exams in pathology
- 1 or 2 years of forensic pathology fellowship, to be eligible to take the subspecialty Board exam in forensic pathology
INDIA
After Graduation MBBS(Four and Half Years plus one year comnpulsory Internship),the student can choose Forensic Medicine as Specialized training course(Three Year).Graduates can also opt for Diplomate National Board.Admission into Masters Course is through Entrance Examination in both Government and private Universities or Institutions.
UK Training pathway ...
The Royal College of Pathologists
2 Carlton House Terrace
London SW1Y 5AF
Tel: 020 7451 6700
Fax: 020 7451 6701
Email: info@rcpath.org
Web site: www.rcpath.org
The Royal College will send an information pack on request, detailing career options as a pathologist (albeit in very general terms). They will also send examination information for Part 1 and Part 2 of the College membership exam, the MRCPath.
The examination structure has recently been changed, and is under further revision.
It appears, however, that all those interested in forensic pathology can take a Part 1 examination that is slanted towards this subject (after at least 3 years, 2 of which must be in Higher Specialist Training), whilst still retaining core training in general histopathology. This slanted exam is, howvere due to be discontinued imminently. When this has occurred, one will have to take the general pathology Part 1 exam.
The Part 2 examination can be taken in forensic pathology, and this can be taken by those who passed their Part 1 in general histopathology or the slanted forensic pathology examination. Part 2 can be taken after a period of 5 years recognised training including 4 years of Higher Specialist Training.
The number of SHO training posts in histopathology has increased with the advent of the histopathology training schools. However, the bottleneck seems to be in the availability of Home Office approved forensic pathology training posts at the registrar level.
Readers should also be aware of the on-going review of the Coroner's system in England and Wales. There is some considerable support for the introduction of a 'Medical Examiner' style system (as operating in many States in America) - if this suggestion is taken on board, we could perhaps see an increase in the availability of training places capable of preparing histopathologists for full time forensic pathology roles?
Clinical Forensic Medicine
The following information is adapted from the Association of Police Surgeons leaflet entitled 'The Role of the Independent Forensic Physician' (1999).
Most of you will have heard of the term 'Police Surgeon', or in London, 'Forensic Medical Examiner', but not really understand what exactly they are referring to. They are both terms for clinical forensic medicine specialists, or forensic physicians.
Clinical forensic medicine physicians are independent, self-employed and usually contracted to provide services direct to the relevant police authority. These services include providing medical care and forensic assessment of prisoners and suspects in police custody, as well as alleged victims of assault, police officers injured whilst on duty, and certifying life-extinct at scenes of death.
They interpret their findings to the police, and the courts, and must therefore be well versed in court procedures and the workings of the legal system.
Most forensic physicians are part-time (the majority being GPs for the rest of their time), although there are full time forensic physicians in busy metropolitan areas.
Training
The Diploma in Medical Jurisprudence (DMJ) is a postgraduate exam offered by the Society of Apothecaries, and it has 2 separate 'arms' - the clinical and pathological. Those destined to become forensic pathologists take the pathological DMJ, whilst those destined for clinical forensic medicine obviously choose the clinical DMJ.
For more information about becoming a forensic physician, visit the Association of Police Surgeons website.
Forensic Psychiatry
The following information is adapted from an article that appeared in the British Medical Journal (319:S2-7215 9/10/99) under the title 'Career Focus: Forensic Psychiatry', and written by John Sandford.
Training and Job Opportunities
After qualifying as a doctor, and training as a general psychiatrist (and passing the MRCPsych), there are training posts in forensic psychiatry. Higher professional training in this subject takes 3 years in dedicated forensic posts.
Job prospects are good at the moment, and the specialty is growing all the time, therefore it is envisaged that prospects will improve for some time yet'.
Further information about forensic psychiatry can also be obtained from the Royal College of Psychiatrists.
Foreign Medical Graduates:
Entry into USA
They can opt Forensic Pathology by first undertaking USMLE and than opting Forensic/Anatomic Pathology Residency and Forensic Pathology Fellowship programme.
Entry into UK
First you need to register with the General Medical council and Than undergo Basic Histopathology training. MRCP Part I and MRCP Part II in Forensic Pathology.
DMJ
This certificate programme wherein overseas graduate with few years of Medicolegal Experience in recognized institution can under take Examination in two parts.However this has got its own limits regarding job opportunities.
PHD
Many universities offer PHD programmes like Leciester and Edinburgh universities, both part time and full time but the fees are the Factors to decide.
MD
Many universities do offer MD programmes to Overseas student but again the Fees are the decisive factors.